Suspended Players

[c2009mm]

"This coach is supposed to be a minister of a church, sounds like one whacked out preacher, he should'nt be preaching or coaching it sounds like to me. "

That, to me, is referencing what he does off the court - and his faith....

until you have proof, other than speaking to "others" or "friends"....i'd lay off on personal comments toward anyone!

[Unchained]

Oh, didn't see that one, I was wrong. Still don't care though, he kind of had a good point.

IMO the only real point is "judge ye not lest ye be judged". Like I said before,feel free to criticize his coaching,feel free to say you dislike him as a man,but to jab at a man's religion/religious beliefs when skeletons are in your own closet/your life has been less than perfect,makes you a hypocrite.

[Biggin]

do not ruin this by going off topic

so Wise is not disclining anyone?? even though from everything ive heard BOTH teams went in knowing they wanted to act like this.

if Wise was just as guilty as JIB, and no one gets suspended, ill make sure everyone i know knows that I think its wrong to punish one team and not the otehr for the same kind of infractions

[retiredteach]

Actually I always thought TJ was a good coach. I don't like to make personal attacks, but have heard that he is an excellent Preacher. I have seen him coach, but haven't heard him Preach.

[joe morgan]

BINGO!!!!!!!! YOU GET A STAR!!:mooning::mooning::mooning::mooning::doh:

Were you at the game?

You sure do make some biased posts for someone who umpires high school softball. Maybe someone should report you to the commissioner.

[Unchained]

do not ruin this by going off topic

so Wise is not disclining anyone?? even though from everything ive heard BOTH teams went in knowing they wanted to act like this.

if Wise was just as guilty as JIB, and no one gets suspended, ill make sure everyone i know knows that I think its wrong to punish one team and not the otehr for the same kind of infractions

Yeah-like this is the first time a thread has gotten hi-jacked on here This issue is considerably bigger than a basketball game (starting to enter libel/slander department). You want to talk basketball then talk basketball,but that changed when somebody decided to get personal with a man's religious convictions.

[cvcgrad]

I will be the last one to criticize anyone for their religious beliefs. In fact, I've taken some criticism for defending TJ when the issue of his church affiliation has been brought up.

The issue here has nothing to do with whether or not TJ is a Christian, preacher, pastor, etc. But, it has everything to do with how he responds to what happened Friday as a coach.

Yes, there was a problem with some of the players from the start of the game. There were two or three of the Burton players who were looking for trouble Friday. And, there were two Kelly players in particular who were doing all they could to get it started as well. When the benches cleared and coaches had to seperate the players, it wasn't just one team involved. If the reports from another post are true, the principal at Burton has dealt with their problem by suspending the players. What remains to be seen is whether the principal at Kelly and TJ McAmis, as the coach, not the minister, not the pastor, etc., holds the Kelly players accountable as well.

First I would like to say that I am writing in regards to several comments made on this forum and I am just stating my opinion and in no way am I trying to provoke or anger anyone. I am just standing up for what I believe personally and also for someone that I care about.

I was at the game on Friday between Kelly & Burton. I am also a Kelly alumni. I do not know any of the Kelly players personally. From the very first quarter of the night, the refs did not have control of the game. I give them most of the blame for what happened that night. I am in no way going to accuse all of the Norton boys, but SOME came to Wise with an agenda. One in particular! And anyone that was at the game that night, either from Wise or Norton would have to agree, if they were being honest with themselves. It was one cheap shot after another, that was not being called by the refs. The statement that Coach McAmis purposely told his players to foul as hard as they can to disrupt the ball game is false. As the game continued, tempers flared and tensions grew on both sides. Fans on both sides started talking smack. As for the parent that got verbal with a Burton player, that is wrong. I guess when you feel like your child is being treated unfairly, we all could get a little crazy. I am NOT saying it is right, but again, if we are all honest, people act much differently when it is their child involved. Also, what the Norton fans could not see, was a player from Norton flipping off Wise fans, while holding his hand down beside of his shorts. To say it was a sad night for basketball, would be an understatement.

The main reason I chose to respond to this forum is the comments made regarding T.J. McAmis. I always find it so interesting to see how people look at not only pastors, but christians. T.J. is a human being and not perfect; he would be the first person to tell you that! I also, am not perfect! Are you?! T.J. is a wonderful coach and he loves his boys. Yes, he gets excited at games and yes, he yells and gets mad. Oh my goodness, do you think we should burn him at the stake?! He is a coach! And he is doing his job! I can remember back in the day Stan Wilson raising the roof at a Norton, Wise ball game. He was a great coach. No one ever thought he had major problems. And as for Robin Dotson, who I think is a wonderful coach, you should have seen him coach Friday night. He also was shouting and screaming. Just doing their jobs being coaches.

I am 44 years old and I have had a lot of wonderful pastors in my lifetime, but I have never been so proud to call someone my pastor as I am now with T.J. McAmis! He loves the Lord with all his heart and he puts God first, then his family and then his job. I wish you all would come for a visit to our church and see for yourselves how God's love shines through T.J. when he is preaching. I guess we all feel this way, but I think we have a wondeful church filled with love. Come as you are, but don't leave as you came.

Criticize T.J.'s coaching if you must, but PLEASE don't question his faith, because I can tell you that nothing in this world is more important to him. I hope that you all have a wonderful 2010 and be blessed.

GOD 1st +
Family 2nd +
Job 3rd =
TRUE HAPPINESS

[Unchained]

I will be the last one to criticize anyone for their religious beliefs. In fact, I've taken some criticism for defending TJ when the issue of his church affiliation has been brought up.

The issue here has nothing to do with whether or not TJ is a Christian, preacher, pastor, etc. But, it has everything to do with how he responds to what happened Friday as a coach.

Yes, there was a problem with some of the players from the start of the game. There were two or three of the Burton players who were looking for trouble Friday. And, there were two Kelly players in particular who were doing all they could to get it started as well. When the benches cleared and coaches had to seperate the players, it wasn't just one team involved. If the reports from another post are true, the principal at Burton has dealt with their problem by suspending the players. What remains to be seen is whether the principal at Kelly and TJ McAmis, as the coach, not the minister, not the pastor, etc., holds the Kelly players accountable as well.

It sounds like,much with the Appy game in football,JJK is guilty of not turning the other cheek,not stooping,not taking the higher road. Would that be a correct assumpton cvcgrad? We could have avoided the situation on our part by walking away and not responding. That's a hard for a grown man to do sometimes (turn the other cheek and walk away),but it's even harder for a 16-yr old to do so. I'm not saying that it is right,or saying that JJK deserves no blame. The truth of it is the kids should have shut their mouths and let their game do the talking,and it may be time for the admins at JJK to have a little chat with our kids about class and sportsmanship (you don't see this at Clintwood).

[cvcgrad]

In this situation, it really wasn't an issue of retaliating or not retailating. From what I saw, it started from the very beginning of the game, and it was all of the players we discussed on both teams who were instigating. There were some kids on both teams who were trying to play basketball, but it was nearly impossible.

It sounds like,much with the Appy game in football,JJK is guilty of not turning the other cheek,not stooping,not taking the higher road. Would that be a correct assumpton cvcgrad? We could have avoided the situation on our part by walking away and not responding. That's a hard for a grown man to do sometimes (turn the other cheek and walk away),but it's even harder for a 16-yr old to do so. I'm not saying that it is right,or saying that JJK deserves no blame. The truth of it is the kids should have shut their mouths and let their game do the talking,and it may be time for the admins at JJK to have a little chat with our kids about class and sportsmanship (you don't see this at Clintwood).

[Unchained]

In this situation, it really wasn't an issue of retaliating or not retailating. From what I saw, it started from the very beginning of the game, and it was all of the players we discussed on both teams who were instigating. There were some kids on both teams who were trying to play basketball, but it was nearly impossible.

I'd love to get a look at the film. No doubt there should be discliplinary action from both sides if both sides have blame,and I would be disappointed if no JJK players were discliplined if they indeed played their part of the hand so to speak. That would be the right thing to do.

From what you are saying,then had the officials and coaches done their jobs correctly,this whole situation could have been nipped in the bud and never allowed to have gotten to that point.